Mr.Cipher Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Ah yes, nerf the stale and linear game even more. I envy the games with strong characters and strong tools, that aren't just strong because everything else is complete garbage in comparison. Darc_Requiem and Mattatsu 2 Link to comment
Skort Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Most don't ask for nerfs because they like to see nerfed characters ( at least the people on this forum from my knowledge ) , but out of hope that the game can evolve into something better. A lot of complaints about SFV is it's meta that's all about pure robbery. Most players don't want to add to that by raising the low tiers to the same dumb level.I would guess they want to move away from it and reduce it. If SFV had all / most characters that were G levels of v-trigger stupid then truly SFV would not be worth playing at all. Because that won't be all characters are viable and strong tools, that would just be all characters are a shit show when it comes to balancing. Murphy0X and Shakunetsu 2 Link to comment
Mr.Cipher Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 SFV was always about the V-Trigger robbery, the game is build completly around this mechanic, the only way to make characters really strong is to give them bullshit V-Triggers. This has been the games Meta since at least Season 2 and it already started and leand into that area heavly with the second half of Season 1. The only thing the nerfs do, is to remove the only few good options left in this game, in order to make it even more stale and one dimensional. If you want to make the game not about this, you have to stomp the entire game in and build it up from the ground. At least give the Character strong stuff, but can't do that, if you give characters strong stuff, then V-Triggers will fall off, therefore the only way to handle things is to nerf Tools across the board. The game has been completly flawed by design day one, with a purposly fabricated gamestructure, the game is intended to play like this and no amount of nerfs or changes will change that. The only way to send Capcom the message that you're not ok with this is to drop the game and not support it in any way shape or form. Link to comment
Volt Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 G doesn't even need too many nerfs. Just don't give him 10 whole Lv.3 specials on VT. That's about it, really. 🤣 Link to comment
Hecatom Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Skort said: I don't get it why they hype Dan so much really. And it's dumb stuff like "Dan has a taunt WOW " ! . I mean, we know dudes....we know. Because there is no hype. Capcom is trying to force it, by being over excited about him, when in reality, outside some few clowns most of the fgc doesnt care about him. He is a joke that overstayed his welcome for more than 2 decades by now. Volt, Skort, DoctaMario and 4 others 7 Link to comment
Vhozite Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Hecatom said: Because there is no hype. Capcom is trying to force it, by being over excited about him, when in reality, outside some few clowns most of the fgc doesnt care about him. He is a joke that overstayed his welcome for more than 2 decades by now. I think there are a decent amount of casual players who like him, though I can’t imagine there are many of those guys left in year 5 after a botched launch. My hope is that his late inclusion in V means we won’t have to see him at all in 6. Edited February 1, 2021 by Vhozite Dayaan and Solzan 2 Link to comment
Skort Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, Vhozite said: My hope is that his late inclusion in V means we won’t have to see him at all in 6. To quote SFV devs " we thought Dan is a good choice because he is friends with Sakura and Blanka" Yea, with that logic you can expect him in SF 6 as well. They be smoking the strong stuff at Capcom HQ. Let's add Eliza also because she is Ken's wife. Edited February 2, 2021 by Skort Shakunetsu, DoctaMario, Volt and 4 others 7 Link to comment
BornWinner Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) Yeah, Sakura and Dan are real good friends. Edited February 2, 2021 by BornWinner Darc_Requiem, Solzan, Phantom_Miria and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment
Dayaan Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, Skort said: To quote SFV devs " we thought Dan is a good choice be cause he is friends with Sakura and Blanka" Yea, with that logic you can expect him in SF 6 as well. They be smoking the strong stuff at Capcom HQ. Let's add Eliza also because she is Ken's wife. Why not their daughter? While we're at it, why not add a complicated time travel element? Maybe the child's child comes to fight as well! You know, because she's Ken's granddaughter. Also, let's add Sarah Connor as she has some experience with time travel. So does Marty McFly, so let's add him too. By the way, the Dolorean is a car, just like Lightning McQueen. Add him too. McQueen was gunning for the piston cup for a while. You know what else is a cup? The thing they used in 2 Girls 1 Cup. Add the girls. You know who else is female? Sakura, who is friends with Blanka. Guess who is friends with them? Dan. Dan is in SF6. KingTubb and Volt 2 Link to comment
KingTubb Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Dayaan said: why not add a complicated time travel element? G fighting actual Abe Lincoln. And Old, I mean OLD, stanky Ryu. He has no more honor and just kicks people in the dick or puss. Bigtochiro, DoctaMario and Volt 3 Link to comment
Dayaan Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, KingTubb said: G fighting actual Abe Lincoln. And Old, I mean OLD, stanky Ryu. He has no more honor and just kicks people in the dick or puss. Dave Ryupelle. I can see it. KingTubb and Volt 1 1 Link to comment
BornWinner Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, KingTubb said: And Old, I mean OLD, stanky Ryu. He has no more honor and just kicks people in the dick or puss. I’m pretty sure if it had an actual story and was finished, this would have been realized in Fallen Angels with fighting hobo. He’s actually homeless and has flies around him in gameplay. KingTubb, Shakunetsu, Bigtochiro and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment
Hecatom Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Vhozite said: I think there are a decent amount of casual players who like him, though I can’t imagine there are many of those guys left in year 5 after a botched launch. My hope is that his late inclusion in V means we won’t have to see him at all in 6. I don't doubt that some people like him. But i am sure that those who do are neither hyped, or interested on getting him as a DLC char even more this late on the game. And specially not on the level that Capcom is trying to hype him out, like if he was some fan favorite char that everyone has been asking non stop since day juan up to today. Like i said, he is a joke that overstayed his welcome. He usually ends being a waste of space because he is not allowed to evlove from the joke. Shakunetsu 1 Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Those are fine points MrBae but I literally never hear any talk between anime heads about liking or not genres, except for the tentaclesex stuff. It's always "I like anime" or "I don't like anime", which says to me any differences in genre are far eclipsed by the difference of being anime instead of non-anime. In what way has VHD1 aged poorly? Just production values? I'd still put it head and shoulders above anything with the "oh noes!" kind of characters. Dialogue, character development, plot points, supporting characters with their own lives, all seems fine. Link to comment
Skort Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Ain't gonna lie this is my favourite Hot Wheels car of all time. https://hotwheels.fandom.com/wiki/Maelstrom Jocelot and Vhozite 2 Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 4 hours ago, BornWinner said: Yeah, Sakura and Dan are real good friends. I love it. Sakura literally just pities Dan. He's like that friend you have that you feel bad for. So, you try to look out for them even though, deep down, you know they are pathetic. Hawkingbird, Bigtochiro, Shakunetsu and 1 other 4 Link to comment
GreatDarkHero Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Been busy lately on the admin side. I should be free to play some games this Thursday. Link to comment
Shakunetsu Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Hecatom said: Because there is no hype. Capcom is trying to force it, by being over excited about him, when in reality, outside some few clowns most of the fgc doesnt care about him. He is a joke that overstayed his welcome for more than 2 decades by now. Yeah those guys interested with him is either curios with the new mechanic not directly to dan or just want dan to be there but never really interested on playing him continuosly over other upcoming dlc. His not a funny joke nor an effective handicap character to teach people. Link to comment
GreatDarkHero Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 What would have been more ballsy is if SFV actually put a AOF or a KOF character. Like Ryo or Kyo for example. Something like that would have actually made some people do a double-take. The reason why I'd probably avoid that scenario is because Capcom will likely butcher or neuter their move sets somehow. Dayaan, DoctaMario, Volt and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Shakunetsu Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Iori or Terry should have been the joke character for SF it would had been more funny atleast had a bit of none shoto and recurring Link to comment
Mr.Cipher Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I really wonder how they gonna explain the Vampire thing. Hecatom, Darc_Requiem, BornWinner and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment
Dayaan Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 12 hours ago, GreatDarkHero said: What would have been more ballsy is if SFV actually put a AOF or a KOF character. Like Ryo or Kyo for example. Something like that would have actually made some people do a double-take. The reason why I'd probably avoid that scenario is because Capcom will likely butcher or neuter their move sets somehow. B. Jenet definitely fits Capcom's DLC portfolio and would have brought that character back into the mainstream public eye, just like with Akira. Hecatom 1 Link to comment
KingTubb Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dayaan said: B. Jenet definitely fits Capcom's DLC portfolio Fuck that, let's go fatal fury. BOB WILSON IN SFV OR WE RIOT Link to comment
Dragonfave723 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Mattatsu, Solzan, Darc_Requiem and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
Vhozite Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Hopefully that means it’s dropping that day...don’t give a shit about a stream. Darc_Requiem, Mattatsu, Skort and 4 others 7 Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I want them to release the patch notes before this drops. Hecatom, Skort, Darc_Requiem and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Volt Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Dragonfave723 said: No S5 on the 5th then. Well, let's see if it'll be an embarrassment like the last one. Hecatom 1 Link to comment
Vhozite Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said: I want them to release the patch notes before this drops. Lol they’ll drop patch notes with the release. Maybe an hour before if we are lucky. It’s annoying because patch notes is all I want. I’d assume releasing a text document and letting players read would be easier than organizing an entire stream but here we are. Hecatom 1 Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, Vhozite said: It’s annoying because patch notes is all I want. I’d assume releasing a text document and letting players read would be easier than organizing an entire stream but here we are. Having a visual of the changes is a huge help. Some wording of written patch notes can be confusing. Darc_Requiem 1 Link to comment
Vhozite Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said: Having a visual of the changes is a huge help. Some wording of written patch notes can be confusing. That’s what playing the damn game is for lol I don’t need a damn stream Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Just now, Vhozite said: That’s what playing the damn game is for lol I don’t need a damn stream Just saying, not very change is gonna be immediately apparent. Having a side by side gonna be more helpful than a feeling. Link to comment
Skort Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Yea can't wait to see how Akuma has two new side switch combos while Juri's VT 2 is 3 bars now and Nash's sonic boom is minus 7 on block because they "wanted to stimulate Nash players to use other tools more". Volt, Bigtochiro and Dayaan 1 2 Link to comment
Illwill88 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 It should already be here it's almost been a year and we haven't gotten anything except a few short clips of dan. Link to comment
Skort Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Illwill88 said: It should already be here it's almost been a year and we haven't gotten anything except a few short clips of dan. Stop asking too much,you are greedy as fuck. Laura players really.... I for one was excited to find out Dan has a taunt. Volt, Vhozite, Illwill88 and 4 others 7 Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Illwill88 said: It should already be here it's almost been a year and we haven't gotten anything except a few short clips of dan. It's better than what did with Alex. I remember they released no footage until the day he dropped. Hecatom, Volt and Darc_Requiem 2 1 Link to comment
Skort Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said: I remember they released no footage until the day he dropped. Something planned way in advance by the Capcom marketing experts as they knew from the start before anyone else that Alex was about to get trailers every day for several years via twitter vids. Official trailer was not needed, the spirit of the fgc is within the character itself. Pair of Rooks, BornWinner and Volt 3 Link to comment
Illwill88 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I'm excited to finally play rose in 2024. Dan is cool I guess, but we all wanna see the patch notes. And Im trying not to get my hopes up about the battle mechanic. Skort 1 Link to comment
BornWinner Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) If Dan doesn’t have this an alternate super, then there would truly be nothing good about his inclusion. Edited February 2, 2021 by BornWinner Hecatom and DoctaMario 1 1 Link to comment
Skort Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, BornWinner said: If Dan doesn’t have this an alternate super, then there would truly be nothing good about his inclusion. Inb4 Eventhubs podcast. "Obscure footage may hint of a Sentinel vskill assist for Dan in SFV" BornWinner, Hecatom, Dayaan and 5 others 8 Link to comment
Dayaan Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Y'all are just haters. I am looking forward to doing nothing when Dan drops. It will be a good nap. I am also looking forward to Oro. Many people who have never played SF3 will complain about how he doesn't play like he used to. I will also complain that there is no "used to" for them to begin with. As for Rose, I look forward to seeing her reception similar to Kage's. Remember how people thought he was good until he wasn't? But wait, Daigo is playing him again... New Battle Mechanic is certainly going to be a better loading screen. Now the loading time is 5 seconds, but it's like old cinema reels. They'll flash the DLC for 1 frame like they used to for popcorn, and then you'll buy it. Silly SFV players... Mattatsu, KingTubb and Volt 3 Link to comment
Hecatom Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Mr.Cipher said: I really wonder how they gonna explain the Vampire thing. Nanomachines son Link to comment
Illwill88 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 They owe us no explanation on the vampire stuff it's all good. Spoiler Vhozite, DoctaMario, Bigtochiro and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment
Skort Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 SF V season 5 last character : Capcom be like " it says that Laura likes meat in her bio, so we thought Karnov would be a good guest character" DoctaMario 1 Link to comment
Mr.Cipher Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I'm getting more and more the feeling that this here is in reality an insane asylum. Dan was the final straw to break them it seems. While we're on the topic of meat. Here are different types of meat and good cook should be able to spot the differences. Spoiler Bonus type of Meat for @Skort Phantom_Miria and Volt 1 1 Link to comment
Dayaan Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 @Mattatsugood to play some 30th? Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 6 hours ago, Skort said: Inb4 Eventhubs podcast. "Obscure footage may hint of a Sentinel vskill assist for Dan in SFV" I knew it. You are Velociraptor!? 👀 Hecatom and Skort 2 Link to comment
Dayaan Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 New podcast episode! Check it out! Mattatsu and KingTubb 2 Link to comment
Hecatom Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Wassup mofos. I am posting on my new HP Omen :) Skort, Mattatsu, Darc_Requiem and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Dayaan said: @Mattatsugood to play some 30th? Sorry man. I was working until 11. Should be good on friday. Link to comment
KingTubb Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Do y'all think that a fighting game needs to have locals to be successful? Or at least in person majors? I've seen the argument that GBFV crashed so hard in the USA because it dropped weeks before COVID shut the country down. But it also has butt netcode. Would of it of faired better if the netcode was good? OR is it doomed no matter what without in person events, especially ones like CB, CEO, EVO etc... Volt and Mattatsu 1 1 Link to comment
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