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Sonero Level 17

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8 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said:

No. The new movie is my only exposure to Dune. Nothing about the movie seem out of ordinary as far as Sci-fi goes. 

 

The movie is basically the first half of the book. I kinda don't wanna tell you how crazy shit is gonna get so you can enjoy the ride.

 

But some stuff is gonna get mad weird.

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Hawkingbird Level 18

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15 minutes ago, Maxx said:

LOL I mentioned it before this is the version that makes the most sense for mainstream audiences. The further you go back the wackier the versions get. 

I watch a lot of Sci-fi anime so nothing about Dune sticks out as weird to me. The closest thing to weird is the whole voice thing and the mom being a space witch. It's probably some Force level bullshit anyway. 

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4 hours ago, Sonero said:

 

The movie is basically the first half of the book. I kinda don't wanna tell you how crazy shit is gonna get so you can enjoy the ride.

 

But some stuff is gonna get mad weird.

What was the point of doing only half the book? That movie had a short run time too, they easily could have done the whole book then. I'd heard so much about this movie and I couldn't understand the hype.

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MillionX Level 16

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I kinda zoned out and stopped with whatever that Jojo series was with the blonde dude with hair that looks oddly like pasta shells....who I think is Dio's son(?)

 

On another note--- the physical media hunt! FINALLY, I spotted Haunting of Bly Manor at the store this morning!  Hell yeah I snapped that up immediately.  That is a modern classic now for me; I had to have it in the collection.  It surprises me that Netflix actually still releases some of their stuff on dvd (*no blu-ray though... I have a good guess about why), since I'm sure it's in their best interest that physical media dies sooner rather than later.  All these companies would rather we be hooked on streaming forever, for pretty obvious reasons ($$$ long term).

 

I also saw Spectacular Spiderman there!  Oh yeah I'm coming back for that later.  Spectacular was far superior to the older 90s-era cartoon, imo.  The older cartoons were too limited in what could be shown at the time due to such strict "standards and practices" for Saturday morning shows.  It's surprising to me that this particular store (a Walmart) still has a decent tv/movie section, in a time where everyone else has trimmed their shit down to *maybe* one shelf or little block/stand thing of only "new releases".  They have the Knight Rider series collection there too; I'll have to get that as well before it goes away. (I'm sure this store will shut all that down soon just like all the others)

 

...oh and yep, that "dates" my generation but the first time I had my license and was allowed to go driving around town in mom's car, I absolutely had the Knight Rider theme turned up for the proper "first time driving" experience:

 

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It's funny. 

Most Best Buy and Targets around here have recently reduced their bluray/physical media section to just one aisle.  

Walmart now has a better section now which is laughable. 

 

I can't believe Knight Rider will be 40 next year. 

One of the best themes of all time! 

I still can't believe that after 10 Fast and Furious movie , we haven't got one Knight Rider film from Universal. 

 

 

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AriesWarlock Level 18

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8 hours ago, Maxx said:

Please tell me yall saw the reports of Kanye getting marlyn Manson to convert to Christianity. Lmfaooo 

Manson has believed in A God for many years now, I don't know if it is necessarily the Christian God. Per Disposable Teen lyrics:

 

I never really hated the one true god
But the god of the people I hated

 

Acknowledging he's always believed in a creator.

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12 hours ago, Sonero said:

 

Have you read it?

I didn't even know what it was. But I know the actor Oscar Isaac is a metal fan! 🤘

 

The Desert Sessions: how Dune became metal’s favourite sci-fi epic

Forget Star Wars – Dune is the thinking metal band’s psychedelic science fiction saga of choice.

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A couple of years ago, actor Oscar Isaac outed himself as an unlikely stoner metal fan. Speaking to NME, the Star Wars and Inside Llewyn Davis star ran through his all-time favourite albums. Amid classics by Marvin Gaye and The Cure, one stood out like a bong in a toy shop: Dopesmoker, the hour-long hymn to weed by famed San Diego herb enthusiasts Sleep.

 

“[It’s] is actually just one epic, grinding track,” Isaac explained. “I’ll listen to this when I really just want to wallow, man. I call it ‘sludge metal’ or ‘metal meets Gregorian chants.’ It’s real head music, if you know what I mean.” (I think this is the kind of thing @KingTubb likes)

 

As well as showing impeccable taste, Isaac unwittingly foresaw a glimpse of his own future. The cover of the 2012 reissue of Dopesmoker featured an illustration by acclaimed US artist Arik Roper of a line of cowled nomads leading large, camel-like creatures across a desert.

These were the Weedians, referenced in the lyrics of Dopesmoker – an army of drug-priests traipsing across the sand of some unnamed planet to spread the word of their god, marijuana, kitted out in robes and tubes designed to recycle the smoke they're exhaling so they can remain perpetually stoned.

 

Except anyone with a knowledge of sci-fi knew that they were more than that. Roper’s image was inspired by Frank Herbert’s landmark 1965 sci-fi epic Dune, recently turned into a blockbuster movie directed by Denis Villeneuve and starring Timothée Chalamet, Jason Momoa and – oh, what? – our old friend Oscar Isaac.

 

 

 

The Weedians are essentially Fremen, the indigenous inhabitants of Arrakis, the desert planet at the centre of the Dune saga that’s famed for both its mind-altering drug Spice and the lethal giant sandworms that snake constantly beneath its surface. The robes and tubes are a nod to the Fremen’s ‘stillsuits’ – the outfits that allow them to survive on the planet’s arid surface by recycling bodily fluids (it’s definitely not weed in the books).

“Oh, that cover is totally inspired by Dune,” says Arik Roper, a fan of the saga. “I took a lot of cues from [bassist/vocalist] Al Cisneros’ lyrics, the way he describes these caravans in the desert, and went with it. The visual imagery of those books is astonishing. The vastness and open-ness of the desert suggests this infinite potential, plus there’s an aspect of Dune, with the Spice drug, that really ties in with psychedelics.”

It’s not the only Dune reference in Sleep’s back catalogue. Giza Butler, a track from their 2018 comeback album The Sciences, may have been a punning nod to Black Sabbath’s bassist, but the weed-skewed references in the lyrics to ‘Kiefsatz Hasherach’ and the ‘Muad' Doob messiah’ suggest they’ve blazed their way through Frank Herbert’s books in more ways than one. “We used to get stoned and read all these crazy sci-fi books,” says Sleep guitarist Matt Pike. “Dune was definitely one of them. That stuff about the drug [Spice] was up our street.”

 

 

That sense of scale and ambition is evident in metal’s most famous Dune tribute, Iron Maiden’s To Tame A Land. The song that closes 1983’s Piece Of Mind is essentially the book’s plot set to seven-and-a-half minutes of vaguely Middle Eastern-inspired metal designed to evoke the arid landscapes of Arrakis. The story goes that the band wanted to name the track ‘Dune’, only to be denied permission by Herbert’s agent, who reportedly told them: “No. Because Frank Herbert doesn’t like rock bands, particularly heavy rock bands, and especially rock bands like Iron Maiden.”

This didn’t stop bassist and songwriter Steve Harris from risking the wrath of Herbert’s lawyers by loading the track with references to such arcana as the Kwizatz Haderach and the Gom Jabbar (not uncoincidentally, Arik Roper created a Dune-inspired poster for To Tame A Land a few years ago, featuring Eddie as a Paul Atreides-esque figure exhorting a crowd of disciples against a desert landscape). 

 

 

 

More Dune references in metal:

 

https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-desert-sessions-how-dune-became-metals-favourite-sci-fi-epic

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Sonero Level 17

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Honestly kids who like anime are eating hella good now a days. The only Jojo's thing I could be a fan of was the PS1 port of the game. Years later in the US, I was able to find some artwork for the animes they did but not much.

 

 

Now with the resurgence or the blow up, I really got to enjoy stuff I hadn't had a chance to really appreciate.

 

Only bad thing about it has been that Stardust Crusaders ended up being my least favorite arc. Maybe tied a bit with Young Joseph pulling more things out of his ass than scary German porno. 

 

Like RSG3 told me years ago, Diamond is Unbreakable was hella great. Mans was right.

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1 hour ago, Sonero said:

Only bad thing about it has been that Stardust Crusaders ended up being my least favorite arc. Maybe tied a bit with Young Joseph pulling more things out of his ass than scary German porno. 

I haven't gotten through Golden Wind yet. However, I actually enjoyed Battle Tendency for the ridiculousness of it. Stardust Crusaders is where my wife and I binged the show. She loved it because of JoJo's solution to most problems being "Imma beat that bitch like he owes me money". I enjoyed the relationships of the team and how DIO was setup as a force to be reckoned with. It did not disappoint. DIU took a bit to get started for me, but after the world building aspect, it  was also pretty good. Personally, my least favorite is Phantom Blood. However, hearing the character names for the first time (in particular REO Speedwagon) will always hold a special place in my heart. 

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ha, it's that time for Donovan to analyze the shit out of something from a recent F&F show... I didn't see the episode but I'll take a wild guess that she probably got the boot at some point that night 😆

 

...but yeah--- Jojo last interested me when the almighty Dio was involved.  The further we got away from that, the less I cared, tbh.

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30 minutes ago, HD-Man said:

Dio such an old school villain but he works. Modern villains usually have a redeeming or relatable quality or two. Dio ain't got shit, he specifically went out his way to fuck with the Joestars who've been nothing but kind to him. Mfer evil just cuz and that's all he needs to be 🤣

one of the benefits of being a story told through one persons perspective for so long. modern anime suffers the same way modern western stories are told. redeeming villains to get that sweet sweet vagina money.

 

dio and frieza come to mind as being dudes who are terrible their entire career.

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1 minute ago, HD-Man said:

I was worried they'd redeem Freeza in the ToP but he continued being an evil little shit, albeit he's no longer cowardly due to his 2nd time in hell. How he killed Broly's dad and blamed Goku was fucked up and hilarious, funny but still kept it crystal clear he was NOT changing his ways. 

yah it seemed like their were a couple spots where they might run a redeemer story but he was always meant to be the ultimate villain. they just brought him more in line with dragon balls comedic roots origin but he was still a badguy

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^that reminds me; Freeza's ultimate villain status was one of the things that made the team-up at the end of DBZ Super that much more epic and memorable.  There was just something great about seeing *that* unlikely team-up playing out with perfect teamwork against Jiren to save the universe.

 

Y'know, Lily Singh is one serious case of Jekyll/Hyde with the looks....that might be a bit more harsh than what I really mean but damn... without makeup, the situation isn't good; doesn't even look like the same person.....BUT... when she does "fix herself up" with a bit of makeup and her hair is done, she transforms and becomes QUITE a fine ass specimen, imo.  It's funny to me that she looks like 2 different people depending on how much prep-time she has had.  Now if she could just stop with the damn pants-suits though; I've never been a fan of that look.  It just gives women that "possible lesbian..?" look.  

 

An award for "Most Improvement" could go to Rebel Wilson.  The significant weight-loss worked a miracle there... I always knew she had some potential that could be realized if she just lost the weight, and now it has become a reality for her.

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I'm glad I'm not on this jury. I would have a hard time locking this dude up. In the words of Chris Rock "I'm not saying he should of did it but I understand."

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-killed-his-daughter-s-boyfriend-selling-her-sex-trafficking-n1282968

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1 hour ago, HD-Man said:

Dio such an old school villain but he works. Modern villains usually have a redeeming or relatable quality or two. Dio ain't got shit, he specifically went out his way to fuck with the Joestars who've been nothing but kind to him. Mfer evil just cuz and that's all he needs to be 🤣

DIO's entire arc

 

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16 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

I'm glad I'm not on this jury. I had have a hard time locking this dude up. In the words of Chris Rock "I'm not saying he should of did it but I understand."

Old GD would've been with it with father of the year nominations.

 

Past nominees were a Polish guy who killed a judge and some others who raped his daughter, and a dude who strangled his 14 year old son after he raped a 6 year old.

 

GD would find some really wild news stories that had you like 👀

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26 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

I'm glad I'm not on this jury. I had have a hard time locking this dude up. In the words of Chris Rock "I'm not saying he should of did it but I understand."

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-killed-his-daughter-s-boyfriend-selling-her-sex-trafficking-n1282968

I was almost on a jury in a similar situation.  A father put an abusive boyfriend in critical care because he beat up his pregnant daughter.  Dad showed up and asked him what's good and he asked the dad "THE FUCK YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?"  That's when he got all kinds of stabby.  Stabbed the dude 21 times.  He fucked around and found out.  The only thing I wanted to charge him with was being an outstanding citizen.

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8 hours ago, HD-Man said:

These mfers in Jojo Golden Wind be stomping niggas out after defeating them, I love it. This might end up being my favorite Jojo part when it's all said and done 😂

Golden Wind is really underrated as far as JoJo's parts go, imo. Still unsure whether I like that or Stone Ocean the most though.

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