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Sonero Level 17

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1 hour ago, HeavensCloud said:

What's the latest?

 

the latest is that he apparently handled the money like shit but didn't steal any.

 

We're at the point where Matcherino has to say they are investigating things or basically things are at an impasse. A lot of people are vouching for Art because he did right by them properly. That lowers the amount of potentially questionable tournaments prize money distribution.

 

After that its who knows. He def paid people late, transfered money to his account to cash people out on paypal (which apparently lead to stuff being taken by payapl fees, taxes etc), and in some cases took a long time to pay people out. A lot of that is against Matcherino TOS so they have reason to break ties with him.

 

But hopefully the stuff that looked really close to wire fraud was all just incompetence rather than malice. Them memes were funny AF though.

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18 hours ago, Sonero said:

This situation with Art is going in weird directions.

Yes.  After watching his self-defense stream and some of Bum's streams it looked like he was SUPER guilty of stealing.

 

But apparently the missing money is actually just Paypal and Matcherino fees?

 

I'm waiting to see what people uncover.

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2 hours ago, Pair of Rooks said:

That defense didn't work out for the FTX guy....

 

FTX guy wasn't following his own TOS. Arturo didnt follow TOS either. So the situation there is a bit more straightforward. Arturo broke TOS a million times. Doing so made a mess of the accounting and now we're on a second situation: Did he take pocket money he wasn't supposed to or are the lost numbers stuff eaten by fees/taxes?

 

The fees and taxes question is just a clusterfuck at that point. People gotta bring receipts (of which there should be plenty since its all digital). So that's on Matcherino's end to audit as much as possible and then provide some type of statement.

 

Afterwards we have the situation of the people who accused Arturo of taking money/bad work ethic. Bad work ethic he admitted to on his own stream. The ones who said he was thieving though, that's a whole different situation because if they made some baseless claims that made Art lose money....there might be grounds for an actual defamation case.

 

Goofy clusterfuck.

 

 

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15 hours ago, Sonero said:

 

FTX guy wasn't following his own TOS. Arturo didnt follow TOS either. So the situation there is a bit more straightforward. Arturo broke TOS a million times. Doing so made a mess of the accounting and now we're on a second situation: Did he take pocket money he wasn't supposed to or are the lost numbers stuff eaten by fees/taxes?

 

The fees and taxes question is just a clusterfuck at that point. People gotta bring receipts (of which there should be plenty since its all digital). So that's on Matcherino's end to audit as much as possible and then provide some type of statement.

 

Afterwards we have the situation of the people who accused Arturo of taking money/bad work ethic. Bad work ethic he admitted to on his own stream. The ones who said he was thieving though, that's a whole different situation because if they made some baseless claims that made Art lose money....there might be grounds for an actual defamation case.

 

Goofy clusterfuck.

 

 

Yeah this is what confused me when this all started. When Arturo allegedly said it takes 30-60 days to pay out, that was absolutely not true, so yes he did break TOS a bunch of times and he should've been fired for that from Matcherino. But when I did my personal audit, I confirmed that all my players got paid either through Matcherino or through Arturo paying them out through Paypal. People get fired from jobs, but the FGC has a very real problem with not being able to differentiate fire-worthy offenses from ban-worthy ones. 

 

As long as there are receipts that all offended parties within the FGC outside of Matcherino have been settled up with, then there's no reason Arturo can't continue being a streamer or tech guy, just with no involvement with prize pools. 

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27 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

@PsychoblueI can't disagree with anything you said fam. 

I'm sure you've peeped all  the shit people talk about me on the socials for joining Freshcut (which doesn't even do crypto anymore) so you understand what I'm about to say comes from experience. 

 

People get fired for all sorts of reasons, but the FGC has some illusion in their minds that if you're fired it should only be because you deserve it because you did something unforgivable. This Arturo stuff sounds like "we told you not to do it, you did it anyway, GGs" but acting like he's OMGitzAndre is not the wave. And I told Arturo when this first happened that even though I was going to pause our VOD deal until this is resolved and blown over, I would always remember all he did for me and my scene. I would not be in the position I'm in now to push SFxT as a main EVO exhibiiton if not for Arturo. I wish people would remember all the good hes' done rather than seeing this as an opportunity to try and erase his entire legacy. The damage that would do to the FGC would be irreparable. 

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