Dayaan Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, FlyingVe said: People forget that a 3 frame special will blow up a shit ton of stuff in SFV. Basically any FG, too. 3fr specials are super powerful, especially if there's a priority system at play. Link to comment
Mr.Cipher Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Dayaan said: Basically any FG, too. 3fr specials are super powerful, especially if there's a priority system at play. As far as I remember Priority Systems don't apply to specials, at least not in SFV. I tried this a lot in SFV with Kens M Tatsu, which is 3f too (or was it L? Can't remember), the only times it stuffed my blockstrings, was when I left a 4f instead of a 3f gap. Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Interesting way to do a tier list, instead of making your own, average them from a bunch of top players Shakunetsu, Darc_Requiem, Vhozite and 2 others 5 Link to comment
-PVL93- Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Wait what happened that Poison is A+ now? Mattatsu 1 Link to comment
Sonero Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 A whole year's worth of high placing performances. People slept on her too early. Then she got some good buffs (her EX flip kick thing is -4 and hits overhead). But mostly people slept on her. She's the type of character that got stronger from grinding match ups, not from finding strong tech. Jocelot, FlyingVe, Hawkingbird and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment
Vhozite Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Mattatsu said: Interesting way to do a tier list, instead of making your own, average them from a bunch of top players Why are Cody and Honda bad? I don’t know enough about them to know why. Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Anyone up for playing SFV in 15 mins or so for a bit? Link to comment
GetTheTables Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mattatsu said: Anyone up for playing SFV in 15 mins or so for a bit? Don't have time today but I could probably swing tomorrow for what it's worth. Mattatsu 1 Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) I love Sagat’s AA DP cancel into CA. Get fucked Edited October 31, 2020 by Mattatsu Illwill88 1 Link to comment
Sonero Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 29 minutes ago, Mattatsu said: Anyone up for playing SFV in 15 mins or so for a bit? I'll be having breakfast soon. I can hit you up afterwards. Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, Sonero said: I'll be having breakfast soon. I can hit you up afterwards. Sorry Perth. I can only play for a few more minutes. My wife reminded shit we’re doing today i totally forgot about. I may on later tonight (like 10pm est) if you’re around Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 44 minutes ago, Mattatsu said: Anyone up for playing SFV in 15 mins or so for a bit? I can hit you up little later. The fam went to costco and they will need help once they get back. I can hop on once that's over with. Link to comment
Volt Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Mattatsu said: Anyone up for playing SFV in 15 mins or so for a bit? We stan GGPO Netcodes in this household. 😤 Played @Cipher on +R. Game looked at almost 290ping and said: 2 Frames. You only need to set delay to 2 Frames. It was flawless. No eating inputs, no rollbacks, no lag spikes, nothing. And we were both mashing like gorillas. Only one disconnect when I was playing Jam against his Axl, sat fullscreen maxing out cards while he waited pressing buttons to catch Dragon Kick and I slid in with a Puffball right in his dome. Pretty sure that was too much for the game to handle. 🤣 Mattatsu 1 Link to comment
Mr.Cipher Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just as a reminder AC+R is currently 3€ on Steam and the Rollback Test is still running till the 2nd. I'm able to play Volts Brasilien ass, thats real Rollback Power. https://store.steampowered.com/app/348550/GUILTY_GEAR_XX_ACCENT_CORE_PLUS_R/ Mattatsu, ajyou003, Pair of Rooks and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 hours ago, PVL_93_RU said: Wait what happened that Poison is A+ now? The same thing that happened to Laura. Idom. Before Idom people were actually clowning the utility of VT1 and swearing VT2 Poison was best. Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 @MattatsuStill looking for games in SFV? Link to comment
Mr.Cipher Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Say no to the heretical work of your false prophets, your souls might yet be safed! Come join us, the grass is greener on this side of the fence! Join us doing Vulcanic Vipers, Stun Edges, Potemkin Buster and embrace the power of Anime! Also your Protag is a 200 year old dad, whos wife was used as the base for all the Strive girls bootys, who's also a scientist whos science is to punch things, while listening to Queen. What more could you ask for? Link to comment
ZioSerpe Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I still prefer 2002UM but disregard that ALL HAIL ROLLBACKIA! Volt 1 Link to comment
DarkSakul Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Mattatsu said: Interesting way to do a tier list, instead of making your own, average them from a bunch of top players I hate tier lists, they are all misleading. Link to comment
Volt Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, DarkSakul said: I hate tier lists, they are all misleading. What bothers me about them is how people just post the list but almost never explain it. Over half of them are just mindless clickbait. On the other hand, despite the nonsensical S-tiers, this list doesn't look that bad from what I heard... DarkSakul 1 Link to comment
ajyou003 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr.Cipher said: Just as a reminder AC+R is currently 3€ on Steam and the Rollback Test is still running till the 2nd. I'm able to play Volts Brasilien ass, thats real Rollback Power. https://store.steampowered.com/app/348550/GUILTY_GEAR_XX_ACCENT_CORE_PLUS_R/ Damn only $3.39 CAD so it's definitely getting purchased this weekend. Mattatsu, Sonero, Jocelot and 1 other 4 Link to comment
HeavensCloud Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Vhozite said: Why are Cody and Honda bad? I don’t know enough about them to know why. For Cody. Bad AA's, slow walk speed/normals, free on wakeup. Link to comment
Dayaan Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 9 hours ago, Mr.Cipher said: As far as I remember Priority Systems don't apply to specials, at least not in SFV. I tried this a lot in SFV with Kens M Tatsu, which is 3f too (or was it L? Can't remember), the only times it stuffed my blockstrings, was when I left a 4f instead of a 3f gap. Oh really? That sucks then. I know in 3S, I can counterpoke with LDP sometimes as Ken, as it's 3 frames and hits/launches once. Can be strong. That priority system also helps outpoke low forwards with sweeps. Link to comment
DarkSakul Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Volt said: What bothers me about them is how people just post the list but almost never explain it. It's why I am at the point now if I see any tier list from anything in or related to the FGC I dismiss it with extreme prejudice. Most of them are such hot takes, that the so-called good ones get automatically the same scorn. Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Darc_Requiem said: @MattatsuStill looking for games in SFV? Sorry, I posted that about 10 minutes before my wife asked “are you going dressed like that?”... I totally forgot we had plans lol. I’ll be on sometime around 10pm est if that works for you Darc_Requiem 1 Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 hours ago, ajyou003 said: Damn only $3.39 CAD so it's definitely getting purchased this weekend. Whereabouts in Canada are you? I‘m a little bit outside of Toronto Link to comment
Vhozite Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) Edit: scratch that...hand is starting to hurt. might play later Edited October 31, 2020 by Vhozite Link to comment
Doctrine_Dark Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I've never played a SF game in my life where so many DPs just so happen to whiff. It's ridiculous. GreatDarkHero and Volta 1 1 Link to comment
Sonero Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Use the right DP. Cammy has to be one of the character's that just inordinately hard to deal with for no reason. Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 57 minutes ago, Mattatsu said: Sorry, I posted that about 10 minutes before my wife asked “are you going dressed like that?”... I totally forgot we had plans lol. I’ll be on sometime around 10pm est if that works for you It's cool man. Just stay out of trouble with the missus. 👍🏾 Mattatsu 1 Link to comment
Vhozite Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Can Bison combo after EX.Flame? It really looos like it’s supposed to lead to something but I couldn’t find anything Link to comment
Yiceman Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 16 minutes ago, Vhozite said: Can Bison combo after EX.Flame? It really looos like it’s supposed to lead to something but I couldn’t find anything Pretty sure he can in VT1. Think I've seen EX Flame canceled into EX headstomp. Dunno about outside of v-trigger. Vhozite 1 Link to comment
Dayaan Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Looks like I'll pick up +R as my secondary game. It's good! Try it. Volt 1 Link to comment
Doctrine_Dark Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Sonero said: Use the right DP. Cammy has to be one of the character's that just inordinately hard to deal with for no reason. Most Zeku players think he bodies Cammy without question. Not a Zeku player, so I have no opinion. Likely just comes down to opinion. Even when I play Karin, I'd rather fight Cammy than fight Seth. I legit feel Seth is far more irritating to fight than the majority of the roster. Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) This whole +R thing makes me realize just how much i hate playing fighting games on my laptop... That’s not a knock at PCs, i just hate its tiny screen, how loud the fan hums (despite being clean) and where i have to plug it into and sit to get wired internet. Plus it takes forever to load anything. Also, i find Steam to be annoying. Idk why. Edited October 31, 2020 by Mattatsu Link to comment
Sonero Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Doctrine_Dark said: Most Zeku players think he bodies Cammy without question. Not a Zeku player, so I have no opinion. Likely just comes down to opinion. Even when I play Karin, I'd rather fight Cammy than fight Seth. I legit feel Seth is far more irritating to fight than the majority of the roster. Haven't fought any good Seth's yet. Dude is infinitely better than Cammy; probably fininitely better than Karin too at this point. No idea how people were sleeping on that character on release. The thing about Cammy is that her tools are kinda hard to react to online. DPing EX divekick on reaction/dealing with a 16 frame dash combine is just a pain. She also only needs one cancel into spiral arrow to start her action. So even at plat one mistake against a goofball suddenly makes them more dangerous than they need to be. Kinda like MvC3 Wolverine. Didn't matter who played him, that character was innately more dangerous than he should've been. Doctrine_Dark 1 Link to comment
misterBee Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mattatsu said: This whole +R thing makes me realize just how much i hate playing fighting games on my laptop... That’s not a knock at PCs, i just hate its tiny screen, how loud the fan hums (despite being clean) and where i have to plug it into and sit to get wired internet. Plus it takes forever to load anything. Also, i find Steam to be annoying. Idk why. Time to build a PC!!! Volt, Mattatsu, GetTheTables and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Vhozite Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mattatsu said: how loud the fan hums This is my 1 single complaint about my new laptop. When the fans are all the way up it’s insanely loud. It’s almost comical how loud it is lmao Mattatsu 1 Link to comment
Volt Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, Vhozite said: This is my 1 single complaint about my new laptop. When the fans are all the way up it’s insanely loud. It’s almost comical how loud it is lmao Kinda unavoidable for laptops. I used to have one of these cooler tables to help my old one out, but I never figured out whether they were actually useful or not. Mattatsu 1 Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, misterBee said: Time to build a PC!!! I would if i could Link to comment
Doctrine_Dark Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Sonero said: Haven't fought any good Seth's yet. Dude is infinitely better than Cammy; probably fininitely better than Karin too at this point. No idea how people were sleeping on that character on release. The thing about Cammy is that her tools are kinda hard to react to online. DPing EX divekick on reaction/dealing with a 16 frame dash combine is just a pain. She also only needs one cancel into spiral arrow to start her action. So even at plat one mistake against a goofball suddenly makes them more dangerous than they need to be. Kinda like MvC3 Wolverine. Didn't matter who played him, that character was innately more dangerous than he should've been. I remember people were acting like Seth really struggled in neutral. I fought a good amount of them and he is a nightmare at times. Seth reminds me of S3 Cammy. Everyone had a pocket Cammy back then. Now everyone has a pocket Seth. Most of the players that moved to PC are playing Seth. The only thing that'll make people drop him are nerfs. I still find it funny how my S3 Cammy was nowhere near as good as my S4 Cammy. Everyone all but dropped her like a hot potato even though she wasn't gutted like many wanted to believe. Edited November 1, 2020 by Doctrine_Dark GetTheTables and Volt 2 Link to comment
Vhozite Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 happy Halloween you degenerates Hawkingbird, Phantom_Miria, AriesWarlock and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment
Vhozite Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Doctrine_Dark said: Everyone all but dropped her like a hot potato even though she wasn't gutted like many wanted to believe. I think this has more to do with Seth being the hot new trap on the block than Cammy being bad Link to comment
Jocelot Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 I'm just happy no damn kids are knocking at my door. If Covid is good for one thing, its that. Bigtochiro, Pair of Rooks, Vhozite and 2 others 1 1 1 2 Link to comment
Sonero Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Doctrine_Dark said: Everyone all but dropped her like a hot potato even though she wasn't gutted like many wanted to believe. Happened with Poison early on too. I thought Poison was the best out of Honda/Lucia/Poison. Early on people thought she was trash. I remember having a combo with somebody who played her early saying she had all these bad match ups. Like, if the character is 3 days in, they don't have match ups yet. Poison's playstyle and neutral just had to be figured out. She got a few buffs and here we are. People are getting bopped by stuff she had before the buffs. Early Akuma was also on the same thing. For w/e reason people seem to have a weird perception of characters strengths in this game. At the very least they are very dismissive of things. Japan still downplaying G and Laura at this point too. Any character that walks around with "Gimme The Loot" on repeat ain't bad. Volt and Doctrine_Dark 2 Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 49 minutes ago, Mattatsu said: This whole +R thing makes me realize just how much i hate playing fighting games on my laptop... That’s not a knock at PCs, i just hate its tiny screen, how loud the fan hums (despite being clean) and where i have to plug it into and sit to get wired internet. Plus it takes forever to load anything. Also, i find Steam to be annoying. Idk why. This has to do with you CPU and GPU heating up. The fans are cranking up to keep the temp at manageable levels. Got nothing to do with cleansiness (though it does help) Also, you laptop doesn't sound like it's up to the task. Mattatsu 1 Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, Hawkingbird said: Also, you laptop doesn't sound like it's up to the task. It’s probably not, lol. Shit’s like 11 years old now and was an average laptop then Link to comment
misterBee Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, Volt said: Kinda unavoidable for laptops. I used to have one of these cooler tables to help my old one out, but I never figured out whether they were actually useful or not. They will only help if they are blowing cool air into your laptop's intake vents. If you have a laptop with an aluminum body that uses the chassis as a heatsink (like some MacBooks), it may help a little. If you have a laptop where there are no vents on the bottom and the chassis is made of plastic it won't do much at all. Mattatsu and Volt 2 Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 @MattatsuYou still up for some games tonight? Mattatsu 1 Link to comment
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