The MEGASHOCK Saloon Thread 3: Chinder Chagger Edition

Shakunetsu · March 20, 2023

RSG3 · March 20, 2023

3 hours ago, AriesWarlock said:

This is cruel...just fucking mean.

Shakunetsu · March 20, 2023

axeman61 · March 20, 2023

48 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

She got baited, but the definition she gave in the clip is part of what it is. I don't know if people just didn't get to see the whole thing, but she did give a definition after the stuttering. She could have just said "It's in the book, did you read it?" and it probably would have turned the tables.

Her definition was trash. "The understanding that we need to totally re-imagine and redo society to in order create hierarchies of oppression."

WTF even is that.

RSG3 · March 20, 2023

It's the Ron DeSantis definition of Woke.

Sonichuman · March 20, 2023

34 minutes ago, DangerousJ said:

MEGA MAGA MIRTHFUL MONDAYS:

I don't know if I need to respond with the WTF or LOL reaction to that MLK tweet.

OPTIMUS124 · March 20, 2023

1 hour ago, DoctaMario said:

She got baited, but the definition she gave in the clip is part of what it is. I don't know if people just didn't get to see the whole thing, but she did give a definition after the stuttering. She could have just said "It's in the book, did you read it?" and it probably would have turned the tables.

How was she baited?

Interviewer: "Would you mind defining woke because it's come up a couple times and I want to be sure we are on the same page"

Bethany: WORDS

She set up an honest condition to have a discussion. This is not baiting.

Daemos · March 20, 2023

12 minutes ago, Sonichuman said:

I don't know if I need to respond with the WTF or LOL reaction to that MLK tweet.

I mean I think historians will look back at Trump as a very significant chapter in American history. Not suggesting that he is as "good" as MLK but he has changed the course of politics for at least an entire generation and there's no going back. We live in a "post truth" world not because of him alone, but he sure made an entrance.

Sonichuman · March 20, 2023

35 minutes ago, OPTIMUS124 said:

How was she baited?

Interviewer: "Would you mind defining woke because it's come up a couple times and I want to be sure we are on the same page"

Bethany: WORDS

She set up an honest condition to have a discussion. This is not baiting.

They even said at the end of the clip for her to take her time IIRC.

Chadouken · March 20, 2023

Conservative white people using the word woke is fucking hilarious. Especially when they use it as an insult 😂

RSG3 · March 20, 2023

3 hours ago, DoctaMario said:

She could have just said "It's in the book, did you read it?" and it probably would have turned the tables.

"I did read the book, but for our viewers at home who haven't had the chance to read it yet, and so everyone's on the same page, could you define woke for us please."

That's not a hard dodge to get back in front of honestly.

MillionX · March 20, 2023

Another thing that seems like a twilight zone timewarp situation... that girl from the gym went viral for calling out some dude who made the mistake of *looking* at her I guess... but didn't this already go viral? It seems like that's blowing up again online though I was sure it already was a thing about a month ago. Perhaps there was an update to the story, I suppose...?

I *kind* of hope more clips pop up like that; I never get tired of watching women make themselves look foolish. There is some admittedly sadistic satisfaction I get from this.

RSG3 · March 20, 2023

Those kinds of clips are all over Tiktok.

Those girls all keep getting blown up tho so I don't see this trend lasting much longer.

Frankly gyms need to step up and start regulating how their space is used. The amount of clips I've seen of people filming themselves in the locker room at the gym...fucking stupid as shit.

AriesWarlock · March 20, 2023

OPTIMUS124 · March 20, 2023

2 hours ago, Sonichuman said:

They even said at the end of the clip for her to take her time IIRC.

Here is the entire interview without commentary.

RSG3 · March 20, 2023

The black girl was not having it lol.

OPTIMUS124 · March 20, 2023

3 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

The black girl was not having it lol.

No she wasn't. Nor did she disrespect the guest or co-host. This is how you have a genuine discussion without being a clown.

AriesWarlock · March 20, 2023

We are closer to Horizon the video game

Quote

Researchers have created tiny, ‘fairy-like’ robots that could replace dying bumblebees: ‘Superior to its natural counterparts’

Finnish researchers have developed incredibly light, small robots that can fly. The Tinkerbell robots are porous and made of stimuli-responsive polymers. They weigh only 1.2 milligrams and can be controlled using light inputs. The robots are cost-effective and could provide a practical solution to help maintain crop populations globally. They could potentially be used to pollinate crops across the world.

https://www.thecooldown.com/green-tech/tinkerbell-robots-fairy-crops-pollinate-fly/?utm_source=tldrnewsletter

RSG3 · March 20, 2023

Hopefully the company isn't run by a Ted Faro...oh who am I kidding, were all fucked.

Chadouken · March 20, 2023

8 minutes ago, AriesWarlock said:

Researchers have created tiny, ‘fairy-like’ robots that could replace dying bumblebees

Do they have fucking STINGERS?? 👀

axeman61 · March 20, 2023

I was going to be all like "these mofos did NOT watch Black Mirror", but the little robots themselves don't look dangerous at all. So we're safe... for now.

Edited March 20, 2023 by axeman61

Chadouken · March 20, 2023

How do haikus work?

I'd like to write one for you

But I don't know how

Reticently · March 20, 2023

57 minutes ago, AriesWarlock said:

Researchers have created tiny, ‘fairy-like’ robots that could replace dying bumblebees: ‘Superior to its natural counterparts’

All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace, Richard Brautigan 1967

"I like to think (and
the sooner the better!)
of a cybernetic meadow
where mammals and computers
live together in mutually
programming harmony
like pure water
touching clear sky.

I like to think
(right now, please!)
of a cybernetic forest
filled with pines and electronics
where deer stroll peacefully
past computers
as if they were flowers
with spinning blossoms.

I like to think
(it has to be!)
of a cybernetic ecology
where we are free of our labors
and joined back to nature,
returned to our mammal
brothers and sisters,
and all watched over
by machines of loving grace."

TheInfernoman · March 20, 2023

MEME MONDAY! AI's answer to "a salmon swimming down a river" Edition

BB_Hoody · March 20, 2023

6 hours ago, J-ride said:

From your pictures I am impressed by how clean the city is, but that's been my experience with a several 2nd world and 3rd world nations. When I was in Hungary and Poland I was shocked by the lack of bums and crime.

I guess when you're working with a much smaller population. It's easier to distribute wealth and opportunity. Thus there's little reason to be homeless or resort to crime to get by.

And yeah I'm amazed how clean it all is. I don't have to worry about walking in gum or dog shit. Not trash smelling up the area. No homeless person sleeping on the trains or sidewalk.

Edited March 20, 2023 by BB_Hoody

RSG3 · March 20, 2023

They probably also do a decent job of taking care of the citizens, something America is loath to do.

BB_Hoody · March 20, 2023

5 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

They probably also do a decent job of taking care of the citizens, something America is loath to do.

Bruh you don't know the half of it. Let me pull up some reciets. On how wealthy this country. And how they share that wealth.

DoctaMario · March 20, 2023

5 hours ago, axeman61 said:

Her definition was trash. "The understanding that we need to totally re-imagine and redo society to in order create hierarchies of oppression."

WTF even is that.

What's your definition of it?

5 hours ago, OPTIMUS124 said:

How was she baited?

Interviewer: "Would you mind defining woke because it's come up a couple times and I want to be sure we are on the same page"

Bethany: WORDS

She set up an honest condition to have a discussion. This is not baiting.

It's bait because an in-group member asking someone they view as an out-group member to define in-group language, especially language that has roots in postmodernism and doesn't have an agreed-upon definition is always a trap.

Granted, Mandel fucked up by not having something good to say locked loaded and ready to go, but I think she'd have gotten similar treatment no matter how she defined it, because the word "woke" is a lot like the word "Marxist" in that you can ask 10 different people what it means and you'll get 10 different answers as the meanings are often vague on purpose, but especially so as more people glom onto it.

DoctaMario · March 20, 2023

3 hours ago, RSG3 said:

"I did read the book, but for our viewers at home who haven't had the chance to read it yet, and so everyone's on the same page, could you define woke for us please."

That's not a hard dodge to get back in front of honestly.

I don't think she read the book though. If she had, she could quote from it so the author couldn't try to pull one over.

I can't say for sure, but I'm doubtful that a lot of these talking head types do much to prepare for these kinds of interviews.

BornWinner · March 20, 2023

RSG3 · March 20, 2023

55 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

I don't think she read the book though. If she had, she could quote from it so the author couldn't try to pull one over.

What from the video shows she hasn't read the book? Going from that position still wouldn't change much.

"No I haven't had the chance to read yoyr book yet, could you define the subject matter your talking about so everyone's on the same page?"

Nothing changed, shes still asked to define her subject matter.

She should be able to define the subject matter of their own book no? She wrote a whole book about it after all.

And Marxism has a definition, 9 people saying the wrong one is just that, 9 people being wrong.

Edit: Also how is it bait for the in group to ask the out group to define the in group term they have co-oped from said group?

Edited March 21, 2023 by RSG3

Chadouken · March 20, 2023

19 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

What's your definition of it?

The past tense of wake.

DoctaMario · March 20, 2023

15 minutes ago, Chadouken said:

The past tense of wake.

Uh, well, ackshually maybe if you'd read more Foucault instead of your systemically created dictionary that is grounded in classism and white supremacy, you would know the REAL definition. But I won't tell you what it is.

Hecatom · March 21, 2023

AriesWarlock · March 21, 2023

I can't understand a word of this

DoctaMario · March 21, 2023

1 hour ago, RSG3 said:

What from the video shows she hasn't read the book? Going from that position still wouldn't change much.

"No I haven't had the chance to read yoyr book yet, could you define the subject matter your talking about so everyone's on the same page?"

Nothing changed, shes still asked to define her subject matter.

She should be able to define the subject matter of their own book no? She wrote a whole book about it after all.

And Marxism has a definition, 9 people saying the wrong one is just that, 9 people being wrong.

Edit: Also how is it bait for the in group to ask the out group to define the in group term they have co-oped from said group?

In group grilling out group about in group language is a way to dismiss them, especially when the in group language is constantly changing. Not saying that's what she was doing in this clip, it was a valid question given the context, but I don't think there was any answer Mandel could have given that would have been a satisfactory answer.

But I agree she should have been able to discuss the ideas in her book without stuttering.

Marxism has a definition, but so did the phrase "all lives matter" before 2020, and now that definition has changed given a lot of social context surrounding it.

OPTIMUS124 · March 21, 2023

4 hours ago, DoctaMario said:

It's bait because an in-group member asking someone they view as an out-group member to define in-group language, especially language that has roots in postmodernism and doesn't have an agreed-upon definition is always a trap.

I see the sentiment, but she wrote an entire chapter in a book defining it. Sure, it may be nuanced but the host asking for her definition is a simple question, not a trap. Surely if she did a PowerPoint, she'd have three bullets ready to go.

2 hours ago, DoctaMario said:

Marxism has a definition, but so did the phrase "all lives matter" before 2020, and now that definition has changed given a lot of social context surrounding it

Perhaps, but people not being educated on the proper definition of a subject isn't a shoe-in for this is the new boss. In that same vein people often misuse the term socialism and port it to communism.

Edited March 21, 2023 by OPTIMUS124

TheInfernoman · March 21, 2023

4 hours ago, BornWinner said:

It works the other way too! Pro LGBT lemonade! Oooh actually left wing lemonade! 🤣

In reality it IS a niche one can carve and its fair game. To me money is money. I'll take likes/subscriptions/dollars from magas and commies, trans and alt right trolls. (btw like/Follow/Subscribe to me you mofos!) 😂

IcyBlackDeep · March 21, 2023

6 hours ago, Chadouken said:

How do haikus work?

I'd like to write one for you

But I don't know how

Haikus are easy,

but sometimes they don’t make sense

refrigerator.

OPTIMUS124 · March 21, 2023

4 hours ago, AriesWarlock said:

The brother does make a few good points, but most of the arguments comes from a lack of understanding. Then Fauci and Co. trivialize the discussion. This seems to be a large part of what the entire perception of the pandemic was: two camps that don't understand how to talk to one another.

The thread is even more intellectually vapid.

Edited March 21, 2023 by OPTIMUS124

Jion_Wansu · March 21, 2023

Well, is America done or not yet?

axeman61 · March 21, 2023

12 hours ago, DoctaMario said:

What's your definition of it?

The original: being alert to systematic injustices.

The derogatory: being vicious in purity testing people over shit that does not matter and may have been honest mistakes. I.E: being so woke (in the original sense) you ignore logic.

What does her definition (which she allegedly wrote a lot in a book about) have to do with either of those?

Especially with that corny ass excuse she had after the fact, where she allegedly heard the black lady talking bad about parents and got shook. Yeah, that's it. Can't really sum up a word you wrote in a book about, but it's somehow the other person's fault. I haven't read this lady's book, but I'll bet money it's trash too.

Edited March 21, 2023 by axeman61

axeman61 · March 21, 2023

Double post, but fuck it 🤣

Why would you commit yourself to camera saying this shit? Oh my god. 🤣 Letting bitches know you're broke in two countries.

Edited March 21, 2023 by axeman61

J-ride · March 21, 2023

Passport Bros are just simping with extra steps.

DoctaMario · March 21, 2023

11 hours ago, OPTIMUS124 said:

I see the sentiment, but she wrote an entire chapter in a book defining it. Sure, it may be nuanced but the host asking for her definition is a simple question, not a trap. Surely if she did a PowerPoint, she'd have three bullets ready to go.

Perhaps, but people not being educated on the proper definition of a subject isn't a shoe-in for this is the new boss. In that same vein people often misuse the term socialism and port it to communism.

I agree that she should be able to discuss the ideas in her book, but not that there wasn't necessarily an ulterior motive to Gray asking her point. But I will admit that that's something we can't necessarily know either. Still, I maintain that most of the time when someone asks something like this of an out group member, it's a knowledge check meant to be able to dismiss them outright. Maybe that isn't what Gray was trying to do, but most of the time when I see this situation in other circles, that's what it is.

And if I can be picky for a second, socialism IS communism in a sense. Marx called it, not socialism, but Lower communism and it was meant to be a transition period between the death of capitalism and the start of the post-scarcity classless, stateless dreamworld that is properly known as "communism," not a destination in itself. But I understand your point.

2 hours ago, axeman61 said:

The original: being alert to systematic injustices.

The derogatory: being vicious in purity testing people over shit that does not matter and may have been honest mistakes. I.E: being so woke (in the original sense) you ignore logic.

What does her definition (which she allegedly wrote a lot in a book about) have to do with either of those?

Especially with that corny ass excuse she had after the fact, where she allegedly heard the black lady talking bad about parents and got shook. Yeah, that's it. Can't really sum up a word you wrote in a book about, but it's somehow the other person's fault. I haven't read this lady's book, but I'll bet money it's trash too.

I agree with you RE your definitions, but what her definition was is the other more Marxist half of the coin. It isn't enough to be aware of things, there has to be an actionable part of a movement and there has been a lot of restructuring and rejiggering things especially in the corporate and academic areas of society. So while what she says isn't all of it, it's definitely part of it.

DoctaMario · March 21, 2023

2 hours ago, axeman61 said:

Double post, but fuck it 🤣

Why would you commit yourself to camera saying this shit? Oh my god. 🤣 Letting bitches know you're broke in two countries.

Maybe I'm taking it wrong but I thought his point was that if men come in from the US with a lot of money to burn, it's going to make it harder for locals to get women in their own country because the women get used to foreign guys spending amounts of money local guys can't afford. I'm assuming the guy in the video is American though but I guess it changes the meaning if he's Dominican.

Reticently · March 21, 2023

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Duck

Spoiler

axeman61 · March 21, 2023

25 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

Maybe I'm taking it wrong but I thought his point was that if men come in from the US with a lot of money to burn, it's going to make it harder for locals to get women in their own country because the women get used to foreign guys spending amounts of money local guys can't afford. I'm assuming the guy in the video is American though but I guess it changes the meaning if he's Dominican.

He seems to specifically be talking about buying pussy, by the way he's talking about how someone would get turned down offering a lady $50 for a night like it's the 90s. Not regular dating. He also seems to be pointing this message at people coming down TO the DR, saying if this keeps up, the women there are going to turn in to what "you guys" don't like about American women.

I'm just laughing because even if all this shit is true (I don't know), this seems like some shit discussed in the dark corners of a forum or a subreddit. Not some shit you press RECORD on your own fucking face for. I'm socially retarded and I have more decorum than that. Even if you make a habit of buying pussy, you aren't supposed to be recording yourself soft-whining about prices going up. That goes WHEREVER you are.

Edited March 21, 2023 by axeman61