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J-ride Level 17

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9 hours ago, BB_Hoody said:

Forget Fresh&Fit. This is solid advice that goes back centuries. A woman that lives a promiscuous life style should be a man's last choice for a wife.

 

Put a promiscuous and a woman with few sexual experiences together. And you'll see a night and day difference between their demeanor, how they carry themselves and most importantly. How they view men.

I do think women get a complex from sleeping around mostly because the guys who tend to sleep around the most tend to do women dirty.  But they seem to be willing to fight each other over those deadbeats so I'm not really sure what can be done.  In my own life the guys who married hoes all got divorced after a few years.  The military wives being the worst ones PERIOD.  Jodi is an absolute menace!

 

I believe there is a sweet spot though, I'm not exactly hung up on female purity, but I do think you probably shouldn't wife up women who've had a bunch of one night stands.

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Reticently Level 16

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Man, military spouse is just a bad gig all around.  Let's take a bunch of people in the prime of their lives, and put them up on a shelf in committed relationships where they don't even get to be near their partner for like 9 months out of the year.

 

I don't even know why anyone thinking it through would consider it, unless they were already down with having some sort of open marriage.

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BB_Hoody Level 14

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11 minutes ago, J-ride said:

I do think women get a complex from sleeping around mostly because the guys who tend to sleep around the most tend to do women dirty.  But they seem to be willing to fight each other over those deadbeats so I'm not really sure what can be done.  In my own life the guys who married hoes all got divorced after a few years.  The military wives being the worst ones PERIOD.  Jodi is an absolute menace!

 

I believe there is a sweet spot though, I'm not exactly hung up on female purity, but I do think you probably shouldn't wife up women who've had a bunch of one night stands.

I guess your wording is better. Because everyone looking at me like I'm crazy for not wanting a woman with too much sexual experience. And preferring a woman with less sexual experience. 

 

Because THERE IS a huge difference between the two women. 

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Daemos Level 15

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Men who sleep around don't come out as 'clean' as you think either. Too much of anything stretches you to the limits, it warps your mind in different ways (good and bad), and you never go back to your original shape either way - metaphorically speaking. I think both parties need to have a "ho era" to get it out of their system and everyone's ho era is gonna look different (with different body counts and gauges of what is high or low). It is also private and doesn't necessarily need to be disclosed to your significant other in miniscule detail. Key word being is "era", it is a developmental stage on the path to maturity.

 

Though I don't like the words "clean" and "pure" to be associated with sex, because sex is not intrinsically dirty and these old ideas need to be challenged so that progress can be made on the relationship front. If someone's dirty it's because they are, not because of their body count.

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DoctaMario Level 17

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52 minutes ago, J-ride said:

I do think women get a complex from sleeping around mostly because the guys who tend to sleep around the most tend to do women dirty.  But they seem to be willing to fight each other over those deadbeats so I'm not really sure what can be done.  In my own life the guys who married hoes all got divorced after a few years.  The military wives being the worst ones PERIOD.  Jodi is an absolute menace!

 

I believe there is a sweet spot though, I'm not exactly hung up on female purity, but I do think you probably shouldn't wife up women who've had a bunch of one night stands.

The thing is, women have the same reaction to a guy who's slept with a lot of women. I remember seeing a preview of this documentary about a former male porn actor who was trying to find a steady relationship and the problem he had was that the women he'd meet would always have an issue with the fact that had sex with an absurd amount of women. So this isn't just a male thing.

 

The military spouse thing is nuts. My buddy just got back from Iraq and he and his wife are arguing a lot I guess. It's like you have to learn how to live together again.

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J-ride Level 17

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I honestly believe sleeping around is bad for both men and women.  I don't think sleeping around is cool and I've turned down a ton of sex from women who were in committed relationships especially.  I had a job that involved traveling with co-workers in the past and the amount of out of town hookups that occurred was pretty disgusting to me personally.  Womanizers IMO are just another type of addict and I don't really think there is anything good about the way that they live.  I have a friend who is probably the biggest womanizer ever and he has paid a hefty personal price to get all of those women.  His sons won't even speak to him.  Everything has a price to be paid.

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BB_Hoody Level 14

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@DaemosHoe phase is not necessary for either sex. That's just fear of missing out/ grass is greener thinking. Which is why more often than not. People with vast sexual experience make for terrible husbands/wives. They don't know how to be content with what they got.

 

And not only that. Those with vast sexual experience. And those with few sexual experiences. View the opposite sex differently, and behave in relationships differently.This is important and seems to be overlooked.

 

The sayings ( can't turn a hoe into a housewife/can't turn a player into a husband ) exist for that reason. I will acknowledge I forgot to apply this to men as well. Because I would advise my sistas to avoid men who are known to run through women. Man don't need to be an experienced stud in bed. A good man can be taught how to please and vice versa.

 

 

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Darc_Requiem Level 19

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11 hours ago, RSG3 said:

Yes you can. Thats exactly what I'm arguing against. It's pure nonsense, the fact these dudes even care about a girls body count is pathetic. Like so what if she has a lot of sexual partners? Dudes have tons and no one gives a shit. They only care with women, it's such a stupid double standard men lean on to act like they have meaningful standards when they don't. Fresh & Fit are like Steven Crowder. They invite stupid people onto their show, dunk on them with really questionable and situational logic, and then act like they accomplished something because the Bar Bunnies can't keep up. 

Yeah I'm gonna have to push back on this. It's not nonsense. It is biology. Men don't have pair bonding. Women do. The more partners she has, the harder time she has pair bonding. It also effects the divorce rate. The more partners she has the higher percentage of divorce, which gets back to pair bonding. Men and women should have the right to sleep with however many people they want. However it doesn't have the same effect on us and people need to stop pretending otherwise. 

 

Moreover the double standard for men is actually the preference for women. Women on average prefer a guy with more sexual experience. Just like they prefer their partner be taller than them, and on average they prefer them to be older. It's their preference and they are allowed to have them. Men are the opposite. On average men want a woman that has less sexual experience, that shorter than them, and younger than them. For some reason people get up in arms about male preferences. Yet won't say a thing about a but a woman's preferences even if they are completely ludicrous  i.e. an overweight 35 years old woman with 2 kids thinking she's in entitled to a highly successful man making six figures. Woman are the main ones that "slut shame." It's their go to first insult for other women. 

 

TLDR: The body count debate is nonsense. Women like guys with a high body count. Men like girls with a low body count. People can not like it, but it is what it is. On top of that women are the first to "slut shame". Just like the go to insult for women to men is they have small dick. Their go to insult for other women is that she's slut/hoe etc.

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Reticently Level 16

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15 minutes ago, J-ride said:

I honestly believe sleeping around is bad for both men and women.

Eh, there's a lot of context that goes into whether it's good, bad, or indifferent.  What you described your friend as doing is clearly fucked up though.

 

3 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

It is biology. Men don't have pair bonding. Women do.

Citation needed, because WHAT.

 

 

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Sonero Level 17

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Think the convo about having previous multiple partners is interesting. Mostly because its similar to the porn thing: there ain't a lot in this world you can do that doesn't come with some type of cost to it.

 

It'd be way healthier if we rip that out of the political conversation that took over it. Because the question of "what are we doing to ourselves following this path" is way more important and shouldn't be politicized.

 

14 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

Men don't have pair bonding.

 

Bro which Biology book written by Andrew Tate did you get this shit from?

 

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HD-Man Level 17

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Finally sat down for a few days and realized while my suspension and demotion IS bad, I definitely don't need to be stressing. I got a safety net of about 7k I saved, plus if I was to really get down, borrowing out of my 401k is an option

 

Also, just sold 2 pairs of sneakers out of my collection, one of which I paid $100 for but is current worth about $350. The other pair I took a slight loss on but I never planned on wearing them.

 

So all in all,  I think I'll be fine until another opportunity arises to move back up. Sucks starting (almost) from the bottom again but it could be much worse, so I'll definitely be fine

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OPTIMUS124 Level 16

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5 minutes ago, axeman61 said:

I wonder how far they were into the next HZD. Will they have to get someone new? Will they have to change his appearance?

Probably not. I wouldn't be surprised that his "likeness" can be used for the property. Now if those agreements aren't in place, they likely will.

 

Not quite the same, but it's similar to how James Earl Jones has contractually allowed Disney to use his voice despite being retired. 

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RSG3 Level 18

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10 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

At work, no citation, so I can understand that one point. But I didn't just type a couple lines. 

 

I know. I have to go back and read the rest. I'm remodeling my bathroom with my father so I only got glances. I should said I hadn't read the entire thing, my bad. 

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8 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

I know. I have to go back and read the rest. I'm remodeling my bathroom with my father so I only got glances. I should said I hadn't read the entire thing, my bad. 

Hey man, it really isn't that serious. Not even worried about it at this point. I'm in disbelief over Lance right now.

 

Edit: I have to give the Destiny community props for this one.

 

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Hecatom Level 18

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22 hours ago, RSG3 said:

Yes you can. Thats exactly what I'm arguing against. It's pure nonsense, the fact these dudes even care about a girls body count is pathetic.

 

I disagree, I think is valid for people to worry about how many partners the person they will have a relationship had, regardless of sex, since it can help establish patterns and behaviors on the potential partner, since promiscuity can be related to a lot of mental health issues or problems, like sexual abuse in the past (some people who have been abused when young for example, become hypersexual as a cope mechanism), a personality prone to addiction, a personality prone to self harm/destruction, depression/low self steem,  etc

 

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Like so what if she has a lot of sexual partners?

 

Like for example, people who would want to avoid getting an STD?

 

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Dudes have tons and no one gives a shit. They only care with women, it's such a stupid double standard men lean on to act like they have meaningful standards when they don't.

 

Sorry but there is no really a double standard, since men that sleep around are also seen down as well.

Yes, there are people who may look up to them as something many would like to do themselves, but the majority of people know that it can be unhealthy to be promiscuous.

 

For example, my grandfathers both were womanizers that were unfaithful to their wives having multiple kids with their lovers across multiple towns (hence why I have like 40 aunts and uncles on each side of my family), with my moms dad abandoning his family when she was young.

Their sons and daughters loathed that kind of behavior and is something that was also passed to my generation.

 

 

Also, statistically, most men and women do tend to have less than 4 to 6 sexual partners during their life time, so no, dudes don't have a ton of sexual partners.

 

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DoctaMario Level 17

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1 hour ago, VirginDefiler said:

he was great on Lost. if you remember

This was the first place I remember seeing him

9 minutes ago, J-ride said:

Lance Reddick was fantastic in The Wire.   RIP

He was. It's kind of wild to me that he and Idris Elba are about the only members of they cast that really went on to a lot of success, but there were so many great actors in that cast, and there were a lot of (imo) iconic performances on that show, that I almost wonder if some of them just got typecast. I'm not super into cop shows, but the Wire is one of the greatest shows ever made imo.

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HD-Man Level 17

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1 hour ago, DoctaMario said:

This was the first place I remember seeing him

He was. It's kind of wild to me that he and Idris Elba are about the only members of they cast that really went on to a lot of success, but there were so many great actors in that cast, and there were a lot of (imo) iconic performances on that show, that I almost wonder if some of them just got typecast. I'm not super into cop shows, but the Wire is one of the greatest shows ever made imo.

Michael B Jordan was in The Wire too, there's another 

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